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Re: Dear Robert Scoble, No. Sorry.

NEILMILLIKEN — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:04:29 -0000

I was at the talk Robert gave in Cambridge and spoke to him afterwards whilst I do not agree with some of the stuff you were saying it was true that the audience was full of iPhone users. However, the audience is hardly representative of people in Europe as a whole or phone users for that matter.

We do want to find out what people really use their phones for and have created a survey http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=JW74DefYZ...

I have been involved in creating apps forWindows Mobile ( www.capturatalk.com )which still has a considerable chunk of market share and gives users a lot more freedom than theiPhone which needs to be jail broken to do anything useful. Yes the user interface is clunky but manufacturers such as HTC have created their own skins for the interface which make it really quite workable.

Europe has to watch out but so does America has the dominant handset manufacturers are in the far east! True mobile innovation is happening in Japan, China and Korea yet no one seems to mention that..

Re: Dear Robert Scoble, No. Sorry.

NEILMILLIKEN — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:04:29 -0000

I was at the talk Robert gave in Cambridge and spoke to him afterwards whilst I do not agree with some of the stuff he was saying it was true that the audience was full of iPhone users. However, the audience is hardly representative of people in Europe as a whole or phone users for that matter.

We do want to find out what people really use their phones for and have created a survey http://www.surveymonkey.com...

I have been involved in creating apps for Windows Mobile ( www.capturatalk.com ) which still has a considerable chunk of the smartphone market share and gives users a lot more freedom than the iPhone which needs to be jail broken to do anything useful. Yes the WM user interface is clunky but manufacturers such as HTC have created their own skins for the interface which make it really quite workable.

Europe has to watch out but so does America has the dominant handset manufacturers are in the far east! True mobile innovation is happening in Japan, China and Korea yet no one seems to mention that..

Re: Dear Robert Scoble, No. Sorry.

Mac Morrison — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:31:52 -0000

though he is essentially right - hes more wrong.

Re: Dear Robert Scoble, No. Sorry.

Mac Morrison — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:31:52 -0000

though he is essentially right - hes more wrong.

Re: Dear Robert Scoble, No. Sorry.

Kelv — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:45:54 -0000

Let's not forget the origin of the ARM1176JZF CPU powering the iPhone.

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martyndavies — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:15:53 -0000

Any of the cool kids have a Motorola phone?

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DanLane — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:59:43 -0000

She honestly looked like she was about to walk through the shot.

Or are you talking about the spanish beggar who shook her cup at you while we were filming? ISTR she got a stern shouting at as well.

Re: Dear Robert Scoble, No. Sorry.

Ben Smith — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:57:52 -0000

I'm sure that's what he meant to say... but it came out a bit angrier...

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TheBlackFingernail — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:45:54 -0000

Let's not forget the origin of the ARM1176JZF CPU powering the iPhone.

Re: Dear Robert Scoble, No. Sorry.

martyndavies — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:37:45 -0000

Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies ?

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Ben Smith — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:58:43 -0000

You scare me with subtle... please go back to being 'angry Dan' who shouts death threats at Spanish ladies walking through our shot.

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DanLane — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:41:02 -0000

Yes, I was trying to point out that Americans don't know the difference... too subtle?

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martyndavies — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:23:05 -0000

Of course M*A*S*H was set in Korea

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topgold — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:04:38 -0000

Robert Scoble gets exposed here. Ben Smith gets a free round for an excellent post. Dan Lane gets a gold star for the best comment. Tanks a million for the really mobile perspective.

Re: Dear Robert Scoble, No. Sorry.

martyndavies — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:15:53 -0000

Any of the cool kids have a Motorola phone?

Re: Dear Robert Scoble, No. Sorry.

DanLane — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:59:43 -0000

She honestly looked like she was about to walk through the shot.

Or are you talking about the spanish beggar who shook her cup at you while we were filming? ISTR she got a stern shouting at as well.

Re: Dear Robert Scoble, No. Sorry.

Ben Smith — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:57:52 -0000

I'm sure that's what he meant to say... but it came out a bit angrier...

Re: Dear Robert Scoble, No. Sorry.

martyndavies — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:37:45 -0000

Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies ♫

Re: Dear Robert Scoble, No. Sorry.

Ben Smith — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:58:43 -0000

You scare me with subtle... please go back to being 'angry Dan' who shouts death threats at Spanish ladies walking through our shot.

Re: Dear Robert Scoble, No. Sorry.

DanLane — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:41:02 -0000

Yes, I was trying to point out that Americans don't know the difference... too subtle?

Re: Dear Robert Scoble, No. Sorry.

martyndavies — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:23:05 -0000

Of course M*A*S*H was set in Korea

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DanLane — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:16:05 -0000

All aboard the tenuous link bus...

Android is based on the Linux kernel which was started by a man in Finland and maintained by a man with a beard in Wales. It's also heavily based around Java which was invented by a Canadian. All Android hardware available so far has, as Ben mentioned, been designed and built by HTC in Taiwan.

The iPhone is famously designed by Apple in Cupertino and built in China (presumably by underpaid workers). The principal designer of the iPhone is Jonathan Ive who comes from Chingford which is on the border of London and Essex (about 5 miles away from Chigwell which was the location for the 1980's BBC Sitcom "Birds of a Feather" which was about two wives of robbers currently serving a sentence in prison and has absolutely nothing to do with mobile phones) but it served as the acme of british humour of the period, much the same way Dad's Army did in the decades preceeding it... what did America have? M*A*S*H? Pfft remind me what the outcome of Vietnam was again?... speaking of war, it wasn't so long ago that the American's fought for their independence from the British and there are many people who believe that this independence should be revoked poste-haste... especially if American's are going to continue to prattle on about how much better the US of A is when they feel they have even the slightest advantage... there is such a thing as a sore winner you know!

(This post is, of course, meant in jest. I love our colonial cousins and the contributions they have made to my waistline)

Re: Dear Robert Scoble, No. Sorry.

jimwild — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:17:10 -0000

Christ, as a company trying to launch our mobile platforms in the US, I would say in terms of mobile billing & infrastructure etc they are where we were 4 years ago.

I love the iPhone but its not a guaranteed way to monetise the mobile web. End of!

Re: Dear Robert Scoble, No. Sorry.

topgold — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:04:38 -0000

Robert Scoble gets exposed here. Ben Smith gets a free round for an excellent post. Dan Lane gets a gold star for the best comment. Tanks a million for the really mobile perspective.

Re: Dear Robert Scoble, No. Sorry.

Martin Bryant — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:03:36 -0000

Great stuff Ben. I was going to write a post saying pretty much the same
thing but you've summed it up perfectly here. Europe is not Nokia. Also, Scoble seems to switch between talking about Europe's mobile industry and Europe's
mobile users throughout his post. It came across as quite a confused post to me...